1 00:00:37,229 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:41,729 explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride 3 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:44,190 into the world of the paranormal 4 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:47,470 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:51,780 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:54,900 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:57,280 cryptozoology waters as well as other 8 00:01:06,270 --> 00:01:01,120 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,389 --> 00:01:06,280 night now your electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:09,399 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:21,779 --> 00:01:18,180 Tim Tim back Lee what are we doing out 12 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:21,789 in these deep dark woods with with these 13 00:01:29,999 --> 00:01:26,070 awesome speakers and these kick-ass jams 14 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:30,009 well you know Tim I like to meditate 15 00:01:36,749 --> 00:01:33,460 before having a close encounter it 16 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:36,759 energizes the area is sometimes enemies 17 00:01:47,219 --> 00:01:44,850 okay you mean like that that hairy 18 00:01:51,330 --> 00:01:47,229 Bigfoot that's starting to materialize 19 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:51,340 next to us how do we know that he's a 20 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:54,640 good creature or a beast that just wants 21 00:01:59,010 --> 00:01:55,540 to eat us alive 22 00:02:01,200 --> 00:01:59,020 oh well there's no guaranteeing anything 23 00:02:04,380 --> 00:02:01,210 when you're standing in a window area 24 00:02:07,889 --> 00:02:04,390 and a portal is about to open you never 25 00:02:10,139 --> 00:02:07,899 know who's going to come through get 26 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:10,149 sucked into this world but we are 27 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:12,910 dedicated researchers so we have to live 28 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:17,230 with whatever happens well I I hope that 29 00:02:23,729 --> 00:02:19,810 if we're in danger a UFO will come down 30 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:23,739 and save our butts yeah I'm sure they'll 31 00:02:34,410 --> 00:02:30,220 take us away away away well maybe maybe 32 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:34,420 we'd be safer back in KC Oh our studios 33 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:36,940 and out here and they in the deep woods 34 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:40,170 besides I'm getting bitten by all these 35 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:42,850 insects I'm more worried about them not 36 00:02:50,069 --> 00:02:48,250 then a Bigfoot hi Bigfoot I'm I'm 37 00:02:51,119 --> 00:02:50,079 already back in the studios like with 38 00:02:54,179 --> 00:02:51,129 you 39 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:54,189 let me let me let me dust myself off 40 00:03:00,989 --> 00:02:57,730 here you know I I'm not I'm not much of 41 00:03:03,839 --> 00:03:00,999 a woodland creature I'm afraid that 42 00:03:05,059 --> 00:03:03,849 people always wanted a couple of 43 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:05,069 girlfriends that I had over the years 44 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:07,930 always wanted to go camping and I said 45 00:03:12,209 --> 00:03:10,239 you know hey let's camp at the Holiday 46 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:12,219 Inn I mean that that's as far as I get 47 00:03:19,379 --> 00:03:15,969 into the into the into the woods i I 48 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:19,389 remember one time I was in I think it 49 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:21,879 was Flagstaff ER or somewhere and there 50 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:24,040 was only one room left in this rather 51 00:03:32,970 --> 00:03:30,969 seedy motel because a lot of people eat 52 00:03:35,970 --> 00:03:32,980 I'm of the year when a lot of people go 53 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:35,980 to the Grand Canyon in fact a dorm the 54 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:39,900 door latch was broke we had a proper a 55 00:03:45,449 --> 00:03:42,840 chair up under it so that nobody could 56 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:45,459 you know get into the room but 57 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:47,650 unfortunately the last room 58 00:03:55,559 --> 00:03:50,230 a skunk had died outside the air 59 00:03:59,490 --> 00:03:55,569 conditioner and a horrifying experience 60 00:04:01,860 --> 00:03:59,500 so if you're going to were to flex 61 00:04:05,189 --> 00:04:01,870 therefore be careful of what time of the 62 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:05,199 year you're going and don't stay at one 63 00:04:12,659 --> 00:04:10,329 of the two-star motels famous for its 64 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:12,669 hot and cold running cockroaches there 65 00:04:19,229 --> 00:04:15,430 you go and so how are you doing out 66 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:19,239 there in Jasper Indiana no doing doing 67 00:04:26,010 --> 00:04:21,400 well right now talking to you through my 68 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:26,020 my backup computer since as you know my 69 00:04:30,749 --> 00:04:28,240 other one you know up and died on me but 70 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:30,759 fortunately I had practically everything 71 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:33,430 well no we're still hoping to get out 72 00:04:39,709 --> 00:04:35,520 that we're we're still hoping to get out 73 00:04:42,719 --> 00:04:39,719 Tim Beckley's a big book of incredible 74 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:42,729 encounters by the the holiday that'll be 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:44,889 a Christmas presents to all and I know 76 00:04:49,980 --> 00:04:47,530 you've been diligently at work on it and 77 00:04:53,580 --> 00:04:49,990 it's unfortunate about the computer but 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:53,590 that's technology anyway on with our 79 00:04:58,050 --> 00:04:56,050 show for this evening it Sam 80 00:05:01,100 --> 00:04:58,060 why don't you tell us who we're going to 81 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:01,110 be chatting with for the next hour or so 82 00:05:04,679 --> 00:05:03,340 yeah well you know we're really 83 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:04,689 fortunate because you know last 84 00:05:13,529 --> 00:05:09,969 we had Paulino on and so I managed to to 85 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:13,539 get his friend and hopefully soon to be 86 00:05:23,339 --> 00:05:19,089 our friend Alexandra penticoff who has 87 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:23,349 been with with with Paul and in 88 00:05:32,159 --> 00:05:27,629 particular with a UFO incident and 89 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:32,169 another rather unusual event that Paul 90 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:35,529 discussed that week but first let me 91 00:05:40,589 --> 00:05:38,139 introduce Alexander now he's a 92 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:40,599 documentary filmmaker and a multimedia 93 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:43,449 artist as well as an avid adventurer 94 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:45,759 who's constantly searching for the 95 00:05:49,409 --> 00:05:47,919 unknown traveling across the United 96 00:05:51,689 --> 00:05:49,419 States in the world Alexander has 97 00:05:54,389 --> 00:05:51,699 researched various cryptozoological 98 00:05:56,299 --> 00:05:54,399 creatures such as sasquatch the Loch 99 00:05:59,100 --> 00:05:56,309 Ness monster and the Lake Champlain 100 00:06:02,100 --> 00:05:59,110 monster one of our favorites mystery 101 00:06:05,129 --> 00:06:02,110 cats as well as other phenomena and 102 00:06:07,409 --> 00:06:05,139 mysterious places ranging from the 103 00:06:10,219 --> 00:06:07,419 paranormal Bridgewater triangle of 104 00:06:13,499 --> 00:06:10,229 Massachusetts to the Hermit Kingdom of 105 00:06:15,119 --> 00:06:13,509 North Korea he's created short 106 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:15,129 documentary films and series on these 107 00:06:20,369 --> 00:06:17,649 subjects among others now most recently 108 00:06:23,249 --> 00:06:20,379 he's directed the small town monsters on 109 00:06:26,129 --> 00:06:23,259 the trail of champ and is currently 110 00:06:31,109 --> 00:06:26,139 working on an upcoming documentary 111 00:06:34,799 --> 00:06:31,119 called Lions of the east now Alexander 112 00:06:37,379 --> 00:06:34,809 was born in 1993 during the last year 113 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:37,389 apartheid in South Africa two parents 114 00:06:42,209 --> 00:06:40,360 that fled civil war in the former 115 00:06:44,489 --> 00:06:42,219 Yugoslavia and he grew up in the United 116 00:06:47,629 --> 00:06:44,499 States has always been interested in 117 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:47,639 global events history the outdoors and 118 00:06:51,689 --> 00:06:50,319 adventuring so Alexander thanks for 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:51,699 being with us tonight so I'm exploring 120 00:06:56,369 --> 00:06:54,610 the bazaar thank you guys for having me 121 00:07:01,909 --> 00:06:56,379 Tim and Tim it's an honor 122 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:01,919 well 1993 that's when you my goodness 123 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:04,360 1993 I don't think I know anybody that 124 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:07,289 young well I suppose I do you do now 125 00:07:13,379 --> 00:07:09,969 it's been it's been a quick minute let's 126 00:07:16,109 --> 00:07:13,389 say I I believe it is but when you're 127 00:07:18,210 --> 00:07:16,119 dimension-hopping like the three of us 128 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:18,220 do you never really 129 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:20,560 know what the time of at what time of 130 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:23,950 day it is never mind what year 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:26,380 well you've you've had them certainly a 132 00:07:31,590 --> 00:07:29,530 creative background and we'll get into 133 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:31,600 that as the evening it progresses but 134 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:36,070 what is the Pennsylvania triangle I mean 135 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:37,870 we know about the Bermuda Triangle and 136 00:07:42,450 --> 00:07:39,520 there's the dragon's triangle and 137 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:42,460 there's a trying to Bridgewater triangle 138 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:45,100 tricks water Bridgewater and there's one 139 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:48,610 of the the Great Lakes and there's one 140 00:07:54,030 --> 00:07:51,610 in Nevada I think I've heard about but I 141 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:54,040 don't know the there too much about the 142 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:56,470 one there in Pennsylvania how did you 143 00:08:04,440 --> 00:07:59,170 locate it and and how do you connect the 144 00:08:05,910 --> 00:08:04,450 dots sure so I am I talking about both 145 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:05,920 Pennsylvania and the Bridgewater 146 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:09,030 triangle I can do both yeah absolutely 147 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:11,980 give us a you know just square it out 148 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:15,310 for us sure sure so everyone's obviously 149 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:17,260 heard of the Bermuda Triangle very 150 00:08:21,870 --> 00:08:18,910 famous sort of area was covered 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:21,880 extensively in the 70s and 80s you know 152 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:24,130 very popular area and what happened 153 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:25,360 around that time was there were other 154 00:08:32,490 --> 00:08:27,780 areas the people reporting strange 155 00:08:33,810 --> 00:08:32,500 activity UFOs abductions sightings of 156 00:08:35,219 --> 00:08:33,820 strange creatures and these were areas 157 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:35,229 that weren't happening in the middle of 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:37,270 the ocean and one of these particular 159 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:39,250 areas was just south of Boston 160 00:08:44,610 --> 00:08:41,020 Massachusetts in southern Massachusetts 161 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,620 and cryptozoologist Loren Coleman kind 162 00:08:48,930 --> 00:08:46,320 of called it the Bridgewater triangle 163 00:08:51,150 --> 00:08:48,940 because it was an area that encapsulated 164 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:51,160 all sorts of strange phenomena dating 165 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:53,770 back hundreds of years involving swamp 166 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:55,270 that was sort of the epicenter or 167 00:08:59,790 --> 00:08:56,670 something called the Hockomock swamp 168 00:09:01,770 --> 00:08:59,800 which the Wampanoag tribe in the area 169 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:01,780 believed that was where the place for 170 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:03,490 spyro's dwelled that was kind of their 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:05,440 translation they sort of stayed out of 172 00:09:10,530 --> 00:09:08,130 that area it had a very bloody history 173 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:10,540 Plymouth Colony one of the first settled 174 00:09:16,079 --> 00:09:14,080 areas in North America there was right 175 00:09:17,579 --> 00:09:16,089 at sort of the start of this you could 176 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:17,589 say there was a lot of conflict between 177 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:19,960 the settlers and the tribes in the area 178 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:21,730 and some believe there was a curse that 179 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:23,890 was then placed upon the whole region 180 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:26,020 you have other mysterious things such as 181 00:09:30,180 --> 00:09:28,300 the Dighton Rock which is this very 182 00:09:31,769 --> 00:09:30,190 strange rock with these sort of 183 00:09:33,780 --> 00:09:31,779 hieroglyphic carving 184 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:33,790 on them that nobody can really seem to 185 00:09:38,689 --> 00:09:35,920 figure out the origins of some people 186 00:09:42,179 --> 00:09:38,699 have suggested it's Norse Portuguese 187 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:42,189 perhaps Phoenician Egyptian there's been 188 00:09:46,739 --> 00:09:44,470 a whole host of hypotheses it's now in a 189 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:46,749 state park there you have the Freetown 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:49,870 State Forest notable for various cult 191 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:53,050 activity as well as place where the 192 00:09:57,569 --> 00:09:55,569 Mafia used to dump their bodies kind of 193 00:09:59,879 --> 00:09:57,579 in between Boston and Providence Rhode 194 00:10:02,249 --> 00:09:59,889 Island so very strange area and of 195 00:10:04,499 --> 00:10:02,259 course they must have piled up there 196 00:10:08,249 --> 00:10:04,509 with the the Wesley's of the analyzed 197 00:10:10,079 --> 00:10:08,259 both Oh exactly because it's this forest 198 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:10,089 is basically halfway between Boston 199 00:10:13,970 --> 00:10:11,769 Massachusetts and Providence Rhode 200 00:10:16,410 --> 00:10:13,980 Island which were both sort of 201 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:16,420 epicenters of both the Irish and Italian 202 00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:19,300 mobs and mafias at the time but also you 203 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:21,160 have the puck wuji story which many 204 00:10:25,019 --> 00:10:22,689 people have heard of that sort of is 205 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:25,029 from this area as well so it's a very 206 00:10:29,549 --> 00:10:27,370 strange strange spot and you have the 207 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:29,559 Lizzie Borden house is kind of to the 208 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,470 south of it and lots of UFO activity so 209 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:34,240 that's the Bridgewater triangle so it's 210 00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:35,860 it's basically become one of the more 211 00:10:41,129 --> 00:10:38,529 fit people people disagree people will 212 00:10:42,119 --> 00:10:41,139 go into the forest there too and never 213 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:42,129 be seen again 214 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:44,470 oh there's been stories of 215 00:10:49,290 --> 00:10:47,649 disappearances I think now it's more at 216 00:10:51,689 --> 00:10:49,300 least in the 21st century it's more of a 217 00:10:53,490 --> 00:10:51,699 bit of a I don't want to say exactly 218 00:10:55,439 --> 00:10:53,500 tourist attraction because it's not like 219 00:10:58,139 --> 00:10:55,449 very good businesses capitalize on it 220 00:10:59,549 --> 00:10:58,149 but a people go there because they hear 221 00:11:02,280 --> 00:10:59,559 the stories you know no one really would 222 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:02,290 go into this desolate sort of swamp 223 00:11:06,259 --> 00:11:04,000 the Hockomock swamp unless there were 224 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:06,269 stories and there's plenty of stories of 225 00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:08,800 giant winged creatures being seen 226 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,399 Bigfoot glowing we like we like we like 227 00:11:17,669 --> 00:11:14,800 winged the creatures in fact we did a 228 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:17,679 book weird wing the creatures 229 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:22,480 say that the three times but Bigfoot I 230 00:11:29,009 --> 00:11:25,240 mean the usual description of a easterly 231 00:11:31,739 --> 00:11:29,019 Sasquatch yes sort of the the typical 232 00:11:34,379 --> 00:11:31,749 Sasquatch you know that shaggy hair the 233 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:34,389 operate posture walking on two legs as 234 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:36,100 reported across the country basically 235 00:11:41,819 --> 00:11:38,620 and if every state aside from Hawaii and 236 00:11:44,009 --> 00:11:41,829 every Canadian province so it's somebody 237 00:11:45,449 --> 00:11:44,019 either that or is somebody that got lost 238 00:11:50,419 --> 00:11:45,459 returning home from Woodstock 239 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:50,429 I guess I could it's around that time 240 00:11:57,689 --> 00:11:54,399 yeah bad joke okay alright so we know 241 00:12:00,809 --> 00:11:57,699 about the the that triangle what do we 242 00:12:03,470 --> 00:12:00,819 know about the Pennsylvania triangle 243 00:12:07,829 --> 00:12:03,480 mean our it's the host state like a 244 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:07,839 mystery zone I think yeah it seems to be 245 00:12:12,090 --> 00:12:09,490 Pennsylvania as I'm sure you guys are 246 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:12,100 aware has its fair share of strange 247 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:14,920 places and stories though it does one of 248 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:17,230 them we are our friend there at Peter 249 00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:20,709 who does the YouTube animation and and 250 00:12:26,129 --> 00:12:23,019 puts that all together he's a big fan of 251 00:12:29,579 --> 00:12:26,139 dog man he's got his scary of stories 252 00:12:33,119 --> 00:12:29,589 and their dog man I mean we've had 253 00:12:36,540 --> 00:12:33,129 people on there just on here like butch 254 00:12:40,889 --> 00:12:36,550 who have told us about these and blonde 255 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:40,899 who told us about their experiences 256 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:43,600 investigating a doorman and some of 257 00:12:48,449 --> 00:12:45,850 these other creatures now what part of 258 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:48,459 the state are we concentrating on where 259 00:12:54,359 --> 00:12:50,769 where is the now you guys had your 260 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,369 encounter in and the boys we're about is 261 00:13:00,299 --> 00:12:56,639 that lets say in location to 262 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:00,309 Philadelphia or Pittsburgh or something 263 00:13:05,069 --> 00:13:01,569 that we might now because there are a 264 00:13:07,139 --> 00:13:05,079 lot of rural areas in Pennsylvania sure 265 00:13:08,549 --> 00:13:07,149 sure yeah and just before I mentioned 266 00:13:10,699 --> 00:13:08,559 that you know Pennsylvania is a state 267 00:13:13,739 --> 00:13:10,709 that according to recent data has 268 00:13:15,210 --> 00:13:13,749 perhaps some of the most or has a lot of 269 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:15,220 the Bigfoot sightings in the east coast 270 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:17,350 Pennsylvania is like her third or fourth 271 00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:19,059 in the nation according to the most 272 00:13:22,650 --> 00:13:20,679 recent sort of data that came out this 273 00:13:25,049 --> 00:13:22,660 summer you have other areas like the 274 00:13:27,989 --> 00:13:25,059 Chestnut Ridge South app it's all here 275 00:13:30,419 --> 00:13:27,999 they have strange reports and Eric one 276 00:13:33,749 --> 00:13:30,429 of my favorite one of my favorite videos 277 00:13:37,019 --> 00:13:33,759 are the small town monsters yeah that's 278 00:13:40,169 --> 00:13:37,029 a good one yeah the the area I'm 279 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:40,179 referring to as one that I was turned on 280 00:13:45,359 --> 00:13:43,660 to by our friend Paulie no I and son as 281 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:45,369 well they began researching that a 282 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:47,170 number of years ago a number of years 283 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:49,420 ago and I had the chance to join them 284 00:13:53,970 --> 00:13:51,549 for the first time last year in 2018 and 285 00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:53,980 I've been back in 2019 as well that's 286 00:13:57,539 --> 00:13:55,360 where we had this experience but the 287 00:13:58,889 --> 00:13:57,549 area is sort of I want to say central 288 00:14:02,429 --> 00:13:58,899 western Pennsylvania 289 00:14:03,869 --> 00:14:02,439 we're talking definitely a little bit 290 00:14:06,059 --> 00:14:03,879 closer to Pittsburgh than to 291 00:14:08,910 --> 00:14:06,069 Philadelphia but more towards that hello 292 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:08,920 this so it would be about two hours I 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:12,730 want to say north east of two and a half 294 00:14:17,790 --> 00:14:14,170 hours northeast of the Chestnut Ridge 295 00:14:20,549 --> 00:14:17,800 area that sort of spot so it's an area 296 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:20,559 near Dubois Pennsylvania which is kind 297 00:14:25,079 --> 00:14:22,689 of a very small small town there aren't 298 00:14:27,869 --> 00:14:25,089 really any big towns in the area so it's 299 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:27,879 mostly just the towns and then you have 300 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:30,490 that sort of classic Appalachian sort of 301 00:14:35,189 --> 00:14:33,220 little Hills and Pennsylvania with the 302 00:14:36,929 --> 00:14:35,199 shale and all the different type of 303 00:14:38,699 --> 00:14:36,939 stone that occur in those sort of 304 00:14:42,919 --> 00:14:38,709 rolling hills and rural areas and a lot 305 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,489 what exactly has happened there Oh whole 306 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:50,079 host of strange things so you have 307 00:14:56,309 --> 00:14:53,860 people seeing UFOs of course orbs shadow 308 00:14:58,980 --> 00:14:56,319 people in their homes stories of 309 00:15:02,429 --> 00:14:58,990 abductions of many Bigfoot stories 310 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:02,439 various Bigfoot stories black 311 00:15:07,949 --> 00:15:05,410 helicopters being seen strange sounds at 312 00:15:09,929 --> 00:15:07,959 night the whole host of things that you 313 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:09,939 experience in a lot or that are reported 314 00:15:13,619 --> 00:15:11,290 rather and a lot of the other sort of 315 00:15:15,809 --> 00:15:13,629 triangle areas like I said a lot of 316 00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:15,819 these triangle areas really take their 317 00:15:19,410 --> 00:15:17,559 name after the Bridgewater triangle 318 00:15:22,379 --> 00:15:19,420 even though geographically they might 319 00:15:24,689 --> 00:15:22,389 not be a triangle so in the case of both 320 00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:24,699 Pennsylvania and the Bridgewater 321 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:25,870 triangle they're not really perfect 322 00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:27,550 triangles that's just sort of an easier 323 00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:30,189 way of understanding perhaps or in our 324 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:33,009 minds kind of it's connection actual 325 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:37,029 catch-all look phrase I suppose do you 326 00:15:43,889 --> 00:15:40,959 live do you live in that area no no I do 327 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:43,899 not I live actually in in close to 328 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:46,480 Boston in New Hampshire I'm I'm in New 329 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:50,769 England like Paul yeah okay so now 330 00:15:56,939 --> 00:15:53,170 wouldn't when did you I guess you'd 331 00:15:59,369 --> 00:15:56,949 known Paul for quite a while he refers 332 00:16:04,350 --> 00:15:59,379 to you as a member of his family in fact 333 00:16:08,369 --> 00:16:04,360 but then I guess we we all are some 334 00:16:10,199 --> 00:16:08,379 degree but when did you did you go with 335 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:10,209 Paul when you first went out there and 336 00:16:13,850 --> 00:16:11,070 and had 337 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:13,860 his experience of seeing something in 338 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:16,170 the the woods and in the trees and kind 339 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:19,230 of lumping this all together yeah so 340 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:20,310 that I mean the first time I actually 341 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:23,010 was there was 2018 and it was basically 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:26,400 we got the gang together we invited a 343 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:27,810 couple of other colleagues from New 344 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:29,730 England and they invited me as well and 345 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:31,980 we all road-tripped out there and had a 346 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:34,500 blast and did sort of investigations and 347 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:36,690 for me at that time I was a little more 348 00:16:40,580 --> 00:16:38,370 skeptical about this sort of other 349 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:40,590 phenomena I was coming from much more of 350 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,080 a cryptozoological perspective I was 351 00:16:47,510 --> 00:16:45,360 interested the Bigfoot side so I was 352 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:47,520 very intrigued about interviewing in 353 00:16:51,530 --> 00:16:49,770 2018 we interviewed three generations of 354 00:16:53,420 --> 00:16:51,540 a family that we're all experiencing 355 00:16:55,580 --> 00:16:53,430 kind of Sasquatch activity on their 356 00:16:57,740 --> 00:16:55,590 rural property in this area that we were 357 00:17:00,200 --> 00:16:57,750 staying so I was a little bit more 358 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:00,210 skeptical but we returned this year same 359 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:00,960 sort of thing 360 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:02,490 where we would have you know 361 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:04,410 investigations talking to eyewitnesses 362 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,570 and locals we would do a town hall but 363 00:17:11,540 --> 00:17:08,160 we have you had a nice animal meeting 364 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:11,550 there right yeah yeah yeah yeah did I I 365 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:13,410 hope you videotape some of this you 366 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:14,130 filmmaker 367 00:17:19,069 --> 00:17:17,310 being that you're filming yes parts of 368 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:19,079 it are I actually have the full 369 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:21,930 interviews with the three eyewitnesses 370 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:23,910 from last year on one of my YouTube 371 00:17:29,410 --> 00:17:26,490 channels which can all check tout us oh 372 00:17:32,750 --> 00:17:29,420 absolutely what would that channel be 373 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:32,760 it's called sasquatch out of the shadows 374 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:35,010 it's a YouTube channel and that's just 375 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,630 sort of where I put interviews with 376 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:39,840 Bigfoot researchers eyewitnesses also 377 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:42,510 did stuff that I don't fit into like a 378 00:17:46,340 --> 00:17:44,340 documentary style it's just sort of 379 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,350 extra content I throw out there and 380 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,240 these interviews are obviously included 381 00:17:53,150 --> 00:17:50,880 in that but yeah so this year was 382 00:17:56,330 --> 00:17:53,160 actually year we had the sighting of the 383 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:56,340 strange UFO like object that appeared 384 00:18:00,020 --> 00:17:58,650 that one night and it was quite a 385 00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:00,030 remarkable thing there were I believe 386 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:02,760 five eyewitnesses all together and a dog 387 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:04,890 as well if you would count that as a 388 00:18:12,020 --> 00:18:09,780 another species experience yes at least 389 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:12,030 well what what did you see well what 390 00:18:19,790 --> 00:18:17,040 kind of UFO yes it was the best way I 391 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:19,800 could describe it is sort of I was a 392 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:22,740 clear night and it was a hazy object 393 00:18:27,170 --> 00:18:24,690 that looked like a initial 394 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:27,180 like either the moon or a star that was 395 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:29,880 perhaps behind a cloud but we could 396 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:31,710 quickly realized that this was not the 397 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:34,080 case as it sort of began drifting 398 00:18:37,630 --> 00:18:35,670 through the sky almost like a leaf 399 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:37,640 fluttering the wind but in slow motion 400 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:41,370 this cloud like object or fog sort of 401 00:18:45,260 --> 00:18:43,530 around this light and it just kept doing 402 00:18:48,530 --> 00:18:45,270 that and we started observing it then 403 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:48,540 and then at one point we watched a 404 00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:51,600 smaller brighter more defined object 405 00:18:57,950 --> 00:18:55,020 shoot off of it or come off of it fly 406 00:19:03,200 --> 00:18:57,960 around it and fly back into this hazy 407 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:03,210 area and a lot of adoration it was the 408 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:05,910 sighting the sighting was probably 409 00:19:12,170 --> 00:19:08,610 around between three to five minutes 410 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:12,180 altogether their loss to the sky now I 411 00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:15,540 know some of that is on your on your 412 00:19:22,330 --> 00:19:18,360 blog because we're going to be using 413 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:22,340 that in in a the the book incredible 414 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:25,380 encounters we have some material in 415 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:27,170 there and in fact we'll use part of this 416 00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:32,310 interview I'm sure but you know it okay 417 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:34,680 so other people have seen these things I 418 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:37,620 mean I mean the the your little group 419 00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:40,230 there it's not the only witnesses you've 420 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:42,990 also had talked to other people in the 421 00:19:49,550 --> 00:19:47,730 in the area yes yes yeah yeah so I mean 422 00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:49,560 luckily we managed to film this object 423 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:51,420 so as you mentioned you can check out on 424 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:53,430 my website I wrote up a full kind of 425 00:19:56,770 --> 00:19:55,290 report from my perspective of what 426 00:20:00,980 --> 00:19:56,780 happened just to get the record straight 427 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:00,990 on petaca of mediacom but yeah when we 428 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:02,760 did our town-hall a couple days after 429 00:20:05,930 --> 00:20:04,260 that and of course you know we were so 430 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:05,940 excited to tell everyone about this 431 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:08,760 story and we talked about it and III 432 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:11,220 think we expected more of a reaction 433 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:13,590 perhaps we're also used to going these 434 00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:15,750 sorts of events and giving talks and 435 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:17,880 getting you know sort of a very 436 00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,220 interested reaction but I think most 437 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:21,840 people there were sort of like oh yeah 438 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:23,700 we have that kind of stuff happen fairly 439 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:27,840 usually so so there was they weren't as 440 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:29,790 amazed but I mean it was for them it was 441 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:31,230 just sort of a normal thing because this 442 00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:32,940 sort of stuff happens fairly regularly 443 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:36,600 in that area as we found out and how far 444 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,130 do do 445 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:40,960 okay so we're talking about a portal or 446 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:44,110 a vortex or something along that line 447 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:49,030 how far do these unusual occurrences how 448 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:53,410 far back do they go as far as we can 449 00:20:59,789 --> 00:20:56,410 tell I mean when people first started 450 00:21:01,080 --> 00:20:59,799 reporting probably in the 30s or the 40s 451 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,090 I mean we haven't really found 452 00:21:06,510 --> 00:21:04,000 excuse-me any conclusive data pertaining 453 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:06,520 to this area but people just tell their 454 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:08,440 stories of their family back in the day 455 00:21:13,049 --> 00:21:11,049 in the 50s and 60s talking about strange 456 00:21:14,909 --> 00:21:13,059 things and the fact that one of the 457 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:14,919 properties that we stay on which is kind 458 00:21:18,419 --> 00:21:17,049 of I don't want to say the epicenter but 459 00:21:20,850 --> 00:21:18,429 definitely an area where a lot of the 460 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:20,860 stuff seems to happen was a formerly a 461 00:21:24,570 --> 00:21:22,840 Native American burial ground which was 462 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:24,580 excavated by the University of 463 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:28,030 Pennsylvania where they discovered 120 464 00:21:33,149 --> 00:21:31,030 bodies I believe skeleton skeletal 465 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:33,159 remains rather and it possibly was the 466 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:36,970 site of a sort of meteorite crash oh yes 467 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:42,610 I read that on your site yeah yes so 468 00:21:48,899 --> 00:21:46,090 have any you meteorite to the crash and 469 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:48,909 all that our scientists probing into 470 00:21:52,649 --> 00:21:50,650 this I would take it not right I mean 471 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:52,659 it's just the independent researchers 472 00:21:58,140 --> 00:21:56,350 for the most part yeah I mean regarding 473 00:22:01,200 --> 00:21:58,150 the meteorite question I'm not entirely 474 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:01,210 sure I know that there is a strange rock 475 00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:02,590 that is in possession of one of the 476 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:03,940 people that lives on this property and 477 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:05,860 you know they've contemplated getting it 478 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:08,650 tested by one of the state or somebody 479 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:10,030 in the state of Pennsylvania one of the 480 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:12,070 universities but they haven't to this 481 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:14,200 day but Paul who actually has a metal 482 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:17,230 allergy was walking around in this area 483 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:19,000 where supposedly there was this crash 484 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:21,400 and he suddenly got very ill this was a 485 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:23,890 couple of years ago prior to being not 486 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:26,440 I've never heard of that you could have 487 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,010 an allergy towards metal yes yeah so 488 00:22:34,049 --> 00:22:32,080 that's that kind of happened before I 489 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:34,059 before my time at the site but that's 490 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:36,130 one of the factors that's happened there 491 00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:37,809 so it's it's definitely a very 492 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:39,190 interesting site there seems to be a 493 00:22:42,990 --> 00:22:40,870 long history of people inhabiting the 494 00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:43,000 area I mean there's a style of pottery 495 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:44,950 discovered at this site that was not 496 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:46,450 found anywhere else in Pennsylvania 497 00:22:51,419 --> 00:22:48,370 which I guess would lead us to assume 498 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:51,429 that it was of greater significance to 499 00:22:55,649 --> 00:22:53,799 the local tribes in the area I can't 500 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:55,659 really speak to that but it certainly is 501 00:23:00,899 --> 00:22:58,690 an interesting detail now if I remember 502 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:00,909 correctly in a previous conversation 503 00:23:07,289 --> 00:23:05,320 that Paul had with us on the show here I 504 00:23:10,019 --> 00:23:07,299 think he did mention that there were 505 00:23:11,639 --> 00:23:10,029 like mysterious mysterious vans kind of 506 00:23:14,869 --> 00:23:11,649 parked there and and somebody was 507 00:23:18,329 --> 00:23:14,879 keeping an eye on some of this activity 508 00:23:20,879 --> 00:23:18,339 so I don't know exactly that detail I do 509 00:23:22,979 --> 00:23:20,889 know that one of our colleagues there 510 00:23:25,889 --> 00:23:22,989 was one of the years or actually that 511 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:25,899 last year was sleeping down as sort of a 512 00:23:30,329 --> 00:23:27,580 campground area away from the rest of 513 00:23:33,539 --> 00:23:30,339 the group and he claimed that at wee 514 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:33,549 hours of the morning there was a orange 515 00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:35,529 maintenance truck that sort of just 516 00:23:39,389 --> 00:23:38,169 drove through the area which doesn't 517 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:39,399 really make sense because there's 518 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:41,289 nothing there except private property 519 00:23:46,409 --> 00:23:44,710 and a sort of field which there wasn't 520 00:23:48,869 --> 00:23:46,419 really a road in there's only one Road 521 00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:48,879 in small dirt road and kind of threw him 522 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:50,200 off he wasn't really sure what they were 523 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:52,210 doing and then asking around the morning 524 00:23:56,099 --> 00:23:54,369 he thought Oh was that anyone in the in 525 00:23:58,379 --> 00:23:56,109 the area and nobody really knew what 526 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,389 what he was talking about so that's 527 00:24:01,859 --> 00:23:59,679 that's the only story I know of a 528 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:01,869 strangely vehicle kind of going around 529 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:03,849 but let me interrupt you here because we 530 00:24:06,690 --> 00:24:05,320 have to go to our bottom of the hour 531 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:06,700 break so when we come back we'll 532 00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:09,820 continue our conversation on exploring 533 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:11,150 the bazaars 534 00:24:30,099 --> 00:24:26,809 two of the most electrifying researchers 535 00:24:35,649 --> 00:24:30,109 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 536 00:24:37,749 --> 00:24:35,659 Lee panting Swift's welcome back to 537 00:24:40,989 --> 00:24:37,759 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz 538 00:24:47,139 --> 00:24:40,999 tonight our guest is Alexander Petrov 539 00:24:50,859 --> 00:24:47,149 and Alexander last week we had Paul Eno 540 00:24:54,339 --> 00:24:50,869 on and we talked about the the UFO 541 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:54,349 sighting and then the the extremely 542 00:25:00,159 --> 00:24:56,450 unusual event that happened I think 543 00:25:03,399 --> 00:25:00,169 afterwards with the strange 544 00:25:06,369 --> 00:25:03,409 free-floating tone and you were there 545 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:06,379 you heard that why don't you give us 546 00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:10,190 your perspective of that evening sure 547 00:25:16,330 --> 00:25:12,830 yeah that happened the night following 548 00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:16,340 this sort of UFO light in the sky thing 549 00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:18,830 that we witnessed and I'll say UFO with 550 00:25:22,029 --> 00:25:20,659 true definition of the word you know I'm 551 00:25:24,009 --> 00:25:22,039 in no position to really say what 552 00:25:26,339 --> 00:25:24,019 exactly it was but it was truly 553 00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:26,349 unidentified but we had this strange 554 00:25:31,749 --> 00:25:29,059 sound phenomena that the following night 555 00:25:33,399 --> 00:25:31,759 after the you know kind of full day of 556 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:33,409 traversing around and exploring 557 00:25:37,389 --> 00:25:35,090 different locations and talking to folks 558 00:25:39,009 --> 00:25:37,399 we were all sort of getting ready to end 559 00:25:40,389 --> 00:25:39,019 the night and we're all hanging out in 560 00:25:42,879 --> 00:25:40,399 the garage and that's actually where we 561 00:25:44,859 --> 00:25:42,889 had a sort of a pop-up table where I had 562 00:25:46,659 --> 00:25:44,869 all my gear all my camera gear all my 563 00:25:48,609 --> 00:25:46,669 drone stuff everything was laid out 564 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:48,619 there and I was just sort of gathering 565 00:25:52,299 --> 00:25:50,450 stuff and I was gonna be heading down to 566 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:52,309 a campground to to sleep for the night 567 00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:54,200 and at one point we just heard this 568 00:26:00,339 --> 00:25:58,190 strange tone just kind of turn on in the 569 00:26:02,469 --> 00:26:00,349 garage and there's maybe there was about 570 00:26:04,779 --> 00:26:02,479 five of us standing there in the garage 571 00:26:07,779 --> 00:26:04,789 and I should mention there was another 572 00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:07,789 one of the team was laying in bed not 573 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,190 sleeping but just on his phone probably 574 00:26:15,009 --> 00:26:12,320 about 15 feet away with the door cracked 575 00:26:15,339 --> 00:26:15,019 open and I'll get back to that detail in 576 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:15,349 a minute 577 00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:17,330 and the homeowners were sleeping which 578 00:26:21,129 --> 00:26:19,429 was directly above the garage so we hear 579 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:21,139 this tone and immediately I turn to Paul 580 00:26:26,109 --> 00:26:23,690 jokingly and say what did you step on or 581 00:26:27,849 --> 00:26:26,119 what did you press so we're all looking 582 00:26:29,890 --> 00:26:27,859 around trying to figure out if someone's 583 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:29,900 phone is going off it was a very strange 584 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,070 sort of pitch just a C tone I mean we're 585 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:35,840 all looking around the whole garage I'm 586 00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:37,670 looking all my gear but I know my stuff 587 00:26:42,250 --> 00:26:40,580 it doesn't make that sort of noise so it 588 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:42,260 has sustained was completely sustained 589 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:44,390 and it sounds like it's coming from 590 00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:46,010 above us so we're walking around 591 00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:48,080 somebody then goes into the little side 592 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:49,220 room where there was the washing 593 00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:50,930 machines they're checking the washer and 594 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:51,590 the dryer 595 00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:53,810 there isn't anything and then somehow we 596 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:55,660 all just end up opening the door and 597 00:27:01,930 --> 00:26:58,850 filing outside and the sound sounds like 598 00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:01,940 it's in the sky and at this point you 599 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:03,950 know we're kind of looking up also in 600 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:06,500 awe and somebody two people actually 601 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:08,150 pulled out their cell phones and began 602 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:11,690 recording the sound and to me it sounded 603 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:14,720 like whatever was there or the the sound 604 00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:16,730 perception was that it was sort of 605 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,070 moving around like it was in one spot 606 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,440 and then it would shift and it almost 607 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:24,080 like was kind of went over the woods 608 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:25,430 that were a little bit further away from 609 00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:27,830 the house and at that point it just cut 610 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:29,900 off as if somebody had just hit an off 611 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:30,260 switch 612 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:33,050 it went from sound to just cut off it 613 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:35,630 didn't fade out it didn't transition out 614 00:27:39,370 --> 00:27:37,730 it just kind of kept doing that and we 615 00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:39,380 have the recordings you know on the 616 00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:41,030 phones or you can clearly hear how it 617 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:43,220 kind of cuts out so we spent a little 618 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:44,510 bit of time trying to figure out what it 619 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:45,980 could have been what it might not have 620 00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:47,990 been and all of us agreed that it was 621 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:49,790 sort of moving around and it first 622 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:51,350 sounded like it was inside the garage 623 00:27:56,530 --> 00:27:55,310 and we go inside I ran inside to one of 624 00:27:58,660 --> 00:27:56,540 the other group members who I mentioned 625 00:28:00,370 --> 00:27:58,670 was laying in bed with the door cracked 626 00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:00,380 open I said did you hear any of that and 627 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:01,880 he just kind of looked at me dumbfound 628 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:03,340 and said no what are you talking about 629 00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:05,690 at which point we tried to explain to 630 00:28:09,010 --> 00:28:07,220 him what happened and it was just 631 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,020 amazing because we were so close to him 632 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:10,880 and the door wasn't even shut fully I 633 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:12,830 don't understand we were worried that we 634 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:14,810 would wake the homeowners up as well the 635 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:16,130 next morning we asked them and they said 636 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:17,570 they heard nothing as well they were 637 00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:19,250 sound asleep 638 00:28:23,950 --> 00:28:21,590 the closest sound I could say it 639 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:23,960 resembled would be one of those Tibetan 640 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:28,010 singing bowls that's sort of a noise but 641 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:31,730 it was just sustained so whatever it was 642 00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:33,530 I don't know but it was very intriguing 643 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:34,820 and it happened that night after we 644 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:38,150 witnessed this the strange craft and we 645 00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:39,470 talked about that in the presentation as 646 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:41,240 well and that was definitely one of the 647 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:43,250 stranger sound anomaly sort 648 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:44,750 things that I've experienced I think 649 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:46,910 many of us agreed that it was one of the 650 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:49,190 the more bizarre things because you 651 00:28:53,710 --> 00:28:52,370 expect to see something or you know 652 00:28:55,660 --> 00:28:53,720 something along those lines but when you 653 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:55,670 heat you're just a strange noise it 654 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:57,530 doesn't exactly make a lot of sense and 655 00:29:00,940 --> 00:28:59,090 you know we spend a lot of time trying 656 00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:00,950 to rationalize it or figure out what it 657 00:29:04,570 --> 00:29:03,350 could have been and we checked all the 658 00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:04,580 equipment everything in the garage 659 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:06,830 nothing seemed to work even afterwards 660 00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:09,250 as we checked so it was it was a strange 661 00:29:18,010 --> 00:29:14,620 anomalous sound and that's what makes 662 00:29:22,030 --> 00:29:18,020 this kind of phenomena so interesting 663 00:29:26,260 --> 00:29:22,040 because humans being humans you know we 664 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:26,270 love to try to find a reason that 665 00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:30,710 something like this is happening but as 666 00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:34,310 as you well know the majority of the 667 00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:37,100 time you can't come up you can't figure 668 00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:41,240 out any reason why this is happening you 669 00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:42,440 know I mean you know some people could 670 00:29:47,170 --> 00:29:45,020 speculate that the UFO sighting that you 671 00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:47,180 had the night before you know there may 672 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:48,350 have been some kind of you know 673 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:51,490 correlation with that and then the the 674 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:55,910 the strange audio but when you boil down 675 00:30:01,120 --> 00:29:59,090 to it you know what's the meaning of it 676 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:01,130 is there any meeting you know it's just 677 00:30:08,770 --> 00:30:03,650 it's it's it's beyond trying to figure 678 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:08,780 out why it happened yes yeah I mean it 679 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:11,930 like I said it was as far as we could 680 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:13,910 tell I mean there wasn't any correlation 681 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:16,250 between the two events aside from them 682 00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:18,350 happening in pretty much the same area 683 00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:22,220 and almost 24 hours apart that's that's 684 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:24,800 basically the kind of the takeaway now I 685 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:27,620 mean you can speculate well but what you 686 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:29,750 like about just that area in general and 687 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:32,240 as I mentioned earlier the previous year 688 00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:33,650 when the first year I went there I was 689 00:30:37,630 --> 00:30:34,760 definitely a little bit more skeptical 690 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:37,640 about the the idea that you have Bigfoot 691 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:40,460 and creature sightings going on the same 692 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:42,890 place as UFO or other sort of paranormal 693 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:44,750 activity I'd say I'm a little bit more 694 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:46,730 open to the possibility of that now 695 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:48,890 having kind of experienced something I'm 696 00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:51,170 not saying that Bigfoot's are popping 697 00:30:56,770 --> 00:30:53,920 out of UFOs but I'm saying maybe there's 698 00:30:58,750 --> 00:30:56,780 energetic reasons or you know 699 00:31:00,250 --> 00:30:58,760 vibrational frequencies in these sorts 700 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:00,260 of areas where there seems to be more 701 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:02,930 higher concentrations of this strange 702 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:05,570 activity that draws things like this in 703 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,250 I really don't know I mean we're get 704 00:31:12,490 --> 00:31:09,200 gets really pseudo-scientific once you 705 00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:12,500 get into that territory but I think we 706 00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:14,180 just can't really explain that with the 707 00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:16,340 modern sort of frame of thinking because 708 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:18,440 you know it's much more I think we're 709 00:31:23,290 --> 00:31:21,140 much more materialism based in terms of 710 00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:23,300 explaining things away where is there a 711 00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:24,680 lot of phenomena that we're just 712 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:27,830 starting to learn about that are sort of 713 00:31:32,050 --> 00:31:30,290 intangible in a physical sense but are 714 00:31:33,670 --> 00:31:32,060 certainly something that that happens 715 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:33,680 you know just thinking about something 716 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:36,200 like infrasound or the idea of telepathy 717 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:40,370 or just human willpower even I mean 718 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:41,900 trying to understand that and a physical 719 00:31:47,950 --> 00:31:45,440 sense is definitely difficult what about 720 00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:47,960 other personal experiences now you know 721 00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:51,230 this one was certainly unique I mean 722 00:31:57,730 --> 00:31:54,470 have you had out of all the places 723 00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,740 you've been and investigations that 724 00:32:02,320 --> 00:31:59,600 you've conducted have you had any other 725 00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:02,330 unusual experiences that you can say 726 00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:04,070 yeah this really happened to me and I 727 00:32:08,830 --> 00:32:06,220 don't know what the hell happened I 728 00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:08,840 would say nothing is as definitive as 729 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:10,700 that that was definitely something where 730 00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:14,150 you know we have not only video evidence 731 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:16,820 of what happened we have audio of us 732 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:18,860 seeing this object in real time as 733 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,570 people were trying to film with their 734 00:32:24,670 --> 00:32:22,880 cell phones which didn't really work but 735 00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:24,680 it still preserved the audio of what we 736 00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:26,360 were saying at that exact moment and 737 00:32:30,730 --> 00:32:28,070 then we have all our testimonies so I 738 00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:30,740 think we have you know good amount that 739 00:32:33,310 --> 00:32:31,940 we seen but that was the the most 740 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:33,320 interesting thing I've seen I've 741 00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:35,210 experienced plenty of other stuff that I 742 00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:37,640 can't really say is as conclusive so a 743 00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:39,710 lot of the more Bigfoot related things 744 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:40,700 you know I've been out in the woods 745 00:32:45,580 --> 00:32:42,730 plenty of times with investigators or 746 00:32:48,220 --> 00:32:45,590 kind of filming documentaries with 747 00:32:52,210 --> 00:32:48,230 Bigfoot researchers and you get sort of 748 00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,220 strange noises wood knocks tree knocks 749 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:54,080 particularly a very interesting one in 750 00:32:59,380 --> 00:32:57,050 Ohio a couple years ago with these guys 751 00:33:01,180 --> 00:32:59,390 named Allison Twain where you know we 752 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:01,190 heard something big was sort of 753 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:03,290 responding to a bunch of wood knocks and 754 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:05,060 making noises in the woods and it would 755 00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:06,890 definitely made the hair in the back of 756 00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:09,980 your neck stand up so you know there was 757 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:10,550 another 758 00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:13,000 occasion actually Northern California 759 00:33:17,260 --> 00:33:15,320 ironically in Willow Creek Northern 760 00:33:20,260 --> 00:33:17,270 California which is sort of described as 761 00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:20,270 the the capital Bigfoot capital of the 762 00:33:23,650 --> 00:33:22,160 world because that's close to where buff 763 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:23,660 Bluff Creek was where the 764 00:33:29,530 --> 00:33:26,990 patterson-gimlin film is captured I was 765 00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:29,540 there and we saw you know a UFO in the 766 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:30,920 sky and it was just sort of it looked 767 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:33,440 like a star very far off and it started 768 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:35,090 moving around and then zipping around 769 00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:36,950 kind of left to right and then just sort 770 00:33:43,450 --> 00:33:39,710 of dissipated much much shorter sighting 771 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:43,460 much less detail that I saw as compared 772 00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:46,010 to this thing in Pennsylvania so yeah 773 00:33:49,450 --> 00:33:47,840 aside from those I haven't really had 774 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:49,460 any experiences that stand out that I 775 00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:51,530 could say conclusively or this was this 776 00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:53,270 or this was Bigfoot I mean you know 777 00:33:56,290 --> 00:33:54,560 you're out in the woods and has an 778 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:56,300 outdoorsman you experienced all kinds of 779 00:34:01,180 --> 00:33:57,890 strange things some of which can be 780 00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,190 explained away as hearing a Fox 781 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:03,200 screaming in the springtime which is 782 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:04,490 called the vision scream with their 783 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:06,230 mother in heat and that can be 784 00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:14,740 let me just ask this question here now 785 00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:17,000 the the first night you were there and 786 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:18,950 you were out in the the field with them 787 00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:21,530 with Paul and he had his speaker and he 788 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:24,470 was playing this particular classical 789 00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:26,060 music I believe right by one of his 790 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:30,160 favorite artists and apparently this did 791 00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:34,610 draw in some of the activity that took 792 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:36,140 place that evening was there a 793 00:34:44,530 --> 00:34:41,169 similarity between his playing this 794 00:34:48,490 --> 00:34:44,540 particular music and what you heard in 795 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:48,500 the garage seeing that I'm not sure of I 796 00:34:52,210 --> 00:34:50,419 wasn't there with Paul but this song 797 00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:52,220 sort of he played were just sort of 798 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:53,990 calming music that I think he would play 799 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:55,790 when because what we would do is 800 00:34:59,860 --> 00:34:57,140 basically we'd be split up into groups 801 00:35:02,080 --> 00:34:59,870 either individually or just two per 802 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:02,090 group just sort of stalking out I guess 803 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:03,860 you could say you're hanging out in 804 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:05,810 certain areas of the property where were 805 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:07,250 you know miles away from each other 806 00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:09,170 there I happen to be that night hanging 807 00:35:13,690 --> 00:35:11,720 out down by a wooded ravine near the 808 00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:13,700 property of those folks who had had 809 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:16,100 various generations worth of Bigfoot 810 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:16,790 encounters 811 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,500 I was just sitting kind of alone in a 812 00:35:23,410 --> 00:35:21,440 pickup truck and seeing the shadow of 813 00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:23,420 deer rising through the grass and 814 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,260 turning my 815 00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:25,520 highlights I'm thinking I'm gonna see 816 00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:29,360 something else but yeah as for the tones 817 00:35:34,450 --> 00:35:32,300 uh you know I don't really know if it 818 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,460 sounded like what was on the tones in 819 00:35:38,890 --> 00:35:36,320 terms of that sound we did play some 820 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:38,900 other tones the second day on the the 821 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:41,210 night when we did hear that sound 822 00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:43,250 we were playing just some tones while we 823 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:45,620 were up on an area doing a scouting kind 824 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:47,630 of it was a cloudy night so you couldn't 825 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:48,650 really see anything but it would've been 826 00:35:53,350 --> 00:35:51,100 a perfect spot to do the stargazing and 827 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:53,360 it was sort of similar to some of those 828 00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:55,910 tones but not not exactly the same and 829 00:36:00,640 --> 00:35:57,320 that's why I would say that the closest 830 00:36:02,530 --> 00:36:00,650 sound it resembled was a Tibetan singing 831 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:02,540 bowl if you ever played with one of 832 00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:05,510 those that's pretty much exactly what it 833 00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:07,430 sounded like but just sustained 834 00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:10,070 completely throughout the the few 835 00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:12,080 minutes that we were hearing this this 836 00:36:19,330 --> 00:36:16,990 sound what did you tell us about the 837 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:19,340 documentary that you're currently 838 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:24,050 working on about big cats sure yes so 839 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:26,450 that's uh yeah I just released the 840 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:28,250 trailer for that a couple of days ago 841 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:30,290 here that is called Lions of the East 842 00:36:35,740 --> 00:36:32,810 it's a documentary about the sort of 843 00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:35,750 mystery big cat phenomena in the eastern 844 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:37,220 part of the United States primarily New 845 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:40,090 England where I'm operating out of so 846 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:42,830 it's all about the mountain lion 847 00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:45,170 phenomena primarily which is the idea 848 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:46,940 that people are seeing mountain lions 849 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:49,610 which are supposedly extinct or XAR 850 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:51,890 pated from this area and they supposedly 851 00:36:56,770 --> 00:36:54,710 have been since the later part of the 852 00:36:59,380 --> 00:36:56,780 1800s when they were hunted to 853 00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,390 extinction in the area and a lot of 854 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,040 deforestation happened that pushed out a 855 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:03,440 lot of the other large species of animal 856 00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:04,700 that are native to this area such as 857 00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:07,820 black bear and moose and deer and other 858 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:10,760 species as well but supposedly you know 859 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:12,890 people are still seeing mountain lions 860 00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,690 and I there's plenty people I've talked 861 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:15,920 to that are credible eyewitnesses and 862 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:18,170 I've heard hundreds of stories it's a 863 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:19,910 very wide spread I'd say in this area 864 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:21,610 and the documentary explorers kind of 865 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:24,770 what is going on so I talked to various 866 00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:27,110 officials that work for states of 867 00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:29,720 Vermont to New Hampshire former state 868 00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:31,420 officials from Massachusetts 869 00:37:35,830 --> 00:37:33,820 eyewitnesses kind of self-professed 870 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:35,840 researchers that just go out there 871 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:37,610 either based on their own eyewitnesses 872 00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:38,210 or those of their 873 00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:40,190 family and that's motivated them to try 874 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,440 and get to the bottom as well as people 875 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:44,480 who have found definitive evidence of 876 00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:46,010 mountain lions in the area that have 877 00:37:52,839 --> 00:37:48,740 almost been covered up or kind of 878 00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:52,849 ignored by certain state authorities and 879 00:37:59,530 --> 00:37:56,750 agencies so it's sort of a just a dive 880 00:38:02,470 --> 00:37:59,540 into that entire subject and why there's 881 00:38:03,790 --> 00:38:02,480 this sort of distrust of the states 882 00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:03,800 because a lot of the public will just 883 00:38:06,579 --> 00:38:05,240 write them off and say oh yeah they're 884 00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:06,589 covering it up they know what's going on 885 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:08,180 and I don't want to say their claims are 886 00:38:11,950 --> 00:38:10,310 completely unfounded but I don't think 887 00:38:14,410 --> 00:38:11,960 that there's a necessarily a grand 888 00:38:16,089 --> 00:38:14,420 conspiracy but I think it's somewhere 889 00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:16,099 more in the middle where you do have a 890 00:38:20,740 --> 00:38:18,380 sort of reluctance probably due to money 891 00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,750 or funding to have to deal with a large 892 00:38:24,609 --> 00:38:23,359 predator that is maybe just passing 893 00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:24,619 through the area from Western 894 00:38:29,230 --> 00:38:26,740 populations as opposed to setting up 895 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:29,240 permanent populations but others would 896 00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:30,890 argue no what we've seen young ones 897 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:33,589 we've seen you know evidence of breeding 898 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:35,470 populations so it's it's a very it's a 899 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,990 surprisingly contentious debate in in at 900 00:38:41,950 --> 00:38:40,640 least in New Hampshire and in much of 901 00:38:44,589 --> 00:38:41,960 the surrounding states you'd be 902 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:44,599 surprised how much controversy it's 903 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,730 stirred up and every year there's sort 904 00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:48,800 of a craze about in the local medias and 905 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:51,830 it sort of takes off and it's definitely 906 00:38:59,890 --> 00:38:55,450 an interesting subject what about 907 00:39:02,530 --> 00:38:59,900 sightings of black mountain lions I know 908 00:39:06,339 --> 00:39:02,540 here in Indiana I mean we we get a lot 909 00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:06,349 of sightings of just the regular the tan 910 00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:08,300 colored supposedly you know 911 00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:10,430 mountain lions or Cougars but we also 912 00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:12,700 get a some hot it's a surprising amount 913 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:15,260 of people who claim that they have seen 914 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:17,240 they call them Black Panthers you know 915 00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:19,160 which of course probably you know isn't 916 00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:22,420 the case but they could be melanistic 917 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:25,430 Cougars who knows but what about their 918 00:39:30,339 --> 00:39:28,609 I'm East sure that's something yeah I 919 00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:30,349 forgot to kind of address that but 920 00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:32,060 that's that's part of it I would say 921 00:39:37,390 --> 00:39:33,980 probably a majority of the sightings are 922 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:37,400 that typical sort of mountain lion color 923 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,650 that tawny though it can range from a 924 00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:42,560 light brown to almost a sort of whitish 925 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:45,349 color so it sat in the acceptable sort 926 00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:48,290 of color palette I guess of the mountain 927 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:52,040 lion of the Puma concolor but 928 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:54,530 there's no known melanism in the north 929 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:56,450 american mountain lions which is what's 930 00:39:59,350 --> 00:39:58,010 interesting because there are reports 931 00:40:01,330 --> 00:39:59,360 there are reports even going back to the 932 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:01,340 1930s in New Hampshire people seeing a 933 00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:03,770 black panther or black panthers as 934 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,840 they're described and it happens in 935 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,520 various states and like I said I think 936 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:09,440 majority of the sighting or not I think 937 00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:11,840 but I have seen just from interviewing 938 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,430 people in the data that the majority of 939 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:14,960 the sightings tend to be that normal 940 00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:16,370 sort of mountain lion but there's a 941 00:40:20,830 --> 00:40:18,230 small percentage of settings that are 942 00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:20,840 black in color which is very interesting 943 00:40:24,610 --> 00:40:22,760 and that opens the door to is there 944 00:40:28,270 --> 00:40:24,620 something else going on I mean are these 945 00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:28,280 escaped pets or these is there a are 946 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:29,750 mountain lions able to actually have a 947 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:31,370 sort of melanism which would be very 948 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:34,730 intriguing scientifically at least so 949 00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:36,170 yeah the doc will talk a little bit 950 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:37,880 about that not entirely because I think 951 00:40:43,450 --> 00:40:40,610 that's almost a subject on its own which 952 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:43,460 might warrant further examination in the 953 00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:45,710 future but I definitely is touched up 954 00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:47,750 upon and if you if you've seen my poster 955 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:50,600 for it I have a wonderful artist named 956 00:40:54,850 --> 00:40:52,610 Matt Harris who does a lot of the small 957 00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:54,860 town monsters illustrations he did the 958 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:56,870 poster for me and you can see in the 959 00:40:59,800 --> 00:40:58,250 front there is that sort of tawny 960 00:41:01,780 --> 00:40:59,810 mountain lion and then off to the back 961 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,790 there's a on a cliff there's a little 962 00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:03,440 there's a black panther just kind of 963 00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:07,070 hanging out so paying homage to that mmm 964 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:10,220 and what would you expect this dock you 965 00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:12,890 a turd come out this is gonna come out 966 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:15,560 this winter so at this point I'm looking 967 00:41:21,550 --> 00:41:18,560 at right around in January starting the 968 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:21,560 new year off with that so definitely 969 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:24,530 look out for that and yeah like I said I 970 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:26,930 just put out a trailer for it so if you 971 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:28,730 want to get all sneak peek or just kind 972 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:30,650 of get an idea of what it'll involve you 973 00:41:33,970 --> 00:41:32,200 can check that out 974 00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:33,980 fantastic alright you have to let us 975 00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:35,560 know 976 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,670 drop us an email when that well that 977 00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:39,440 comes out and we'll be sure to mention 978 00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:42,380 that on the show now what about speaking 979 00:41:46,990 --> 00:41:44,270 of small town monsters what about your 980 00:41:50,830 --> 00:41:47,000 your feel about champ we've done several 981 00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:50,840 shows about champ and always always an 982 00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,020 interesting subject for us yes 983 00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:56,240 definitely that's by farm probably my 984 00:42:01,540 --> 00:41:59,330 favorite cryptozoological mystery or 985 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:01,550 creature I always I will always have a 986 00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,830 soft spot for champ yes so the series 987 00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:05,440 was a five-part 988 00:42:11,339 --> 00:42:07,720 you memory miniseries that came out last 989 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:11,349 year in 2018 filmed in 2017 and part of 990 00:42:16,890 --> 00:42:14,200 2018 as well revolving around basically 991 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:16,900 all aspects of the champ mystery in 992 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:18,550 Vermont and upstate New York at Lake 993 00:42:23,099 --> 00:42:21,310 Champlain and it's funny because as a 994 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:23,109 kid I was always really interested in 995 00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:25,420 the Loch Ness monster that's something I 996 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,920 always wanted to investigate and I got a 997 00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:28,240 chance to do that when I visited 998 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:30,460 Scotland a few years ago but I never 999 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,780 really thought about champ that much 1000 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:34,480 whereas Loch Ness is across the ocean 1001 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:36,460 and growing up in New England Lake 1002 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,380 Champlain's you know three hours away at 1003 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,480 most so I never really took a lot of 1004 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:42,400 time to look into it which I'm kind of 1005 00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:45,849 shocked I didn't but I discovered you 1006 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:48,609 know that's sort of is uh in my opinion 1007 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:49,810 even more interesting than the Loch Ness 1008 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:51,849 monster and there's more to work with 1009 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:52,930 there and more of the history of 1010 00:42:58,589 --> 00:42:55,900 sightings so upon that series I've kind 1011 00:43:01,200 --> 00:42:58,599 of expanded and continued to do sort of 1012 00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:01,210 independent research on champ and just 1013 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:02,680 I'm very interested in it especially in 1014 00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:04,990 a cultural aspect you know always visit 1015 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:07,300 Vermont and when I visit there I will go 1016 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:08,950 to Lake Champlain or try and find these 1017 00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:11,710 shops that have champ merchandise or 1018 00:43:15,569 --> 00:43:14,020 places that have champ markers and I've 1019 00:43:17,309 --> 00:43:15,579 come up with sort of a list for people 1020 00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:17,319 if they want to go and have a sort of 1021 00:43:21,569 --> 00:43:19,300 cryptozoology tourism thing where they 1022 00:43:23,609 --> 00:43:21,579 can check out Whitehall New York famous 1023 00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:23,619 for the Bigfoot sightings and then champ 1024 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:25,540 happening right next door and kind of a 1025 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:27,790 it's just been very fascinating and of 1026 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,050 course you know talking to people who 1027 00:43:33,059 --> 00:43:31,119 have had experiences but but the series 1028 00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:33,069 I think is probably if you want to find 1029 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:35,230 out more about just champ I really tried 1030 00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:37,720 to dig as deep as I could in the mystery 1031 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:40,510 and explain a lot about the history of 1032 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:43,030 the lake itself and the sightings and it 1033 00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:45,369 focuses on some of the researchers that 1034 00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:48,069 have looked into it and you know kind of 1035 00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:51,790 joining them for their investigations it 1036 00:44:00,359 --> 00:43:56,560 is interesting though how you have very 1037 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:00,369 similar lake type conditions I suppose 1038 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,290 be you know the best way to describe it 1039 00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:05,200 you know you have a lot lot ness and 1040 00:44:11,069 --> 00:44:07,780 Lake Champlain and then and then others 1041 00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:11,079 across the world that you know cold deep 1042 00:44:18,110 --> 00:44:14,200 lakes that all of them seem to have some 1043 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,120 kind of water beasty 1044 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:20,800 yes there does there definitely seems to 1045 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:22,300 be some sort of trend at least in the 1046 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:23,650 northern hemisphere and a lot of these 1047 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:27,730 formerly glacial lakes to have a sound 1048 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:30,490 of sort of propensity for lake monster 1049 00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:34,240 stories for lack of a better term and in 1050 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:35,860 the case of Lake Champlain you know it's 1051 00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:37,210 very similar to Loch Ness in that 1052 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:37,870 respect 1053 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:40,960 Lake Champlain actually was you know 1054 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:42,610 covered by glaciers thousands of years 1055 00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:46,450 ago and as the glaciers receded it was 1056 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:48,040 then connected to the ocean for a time 1057 00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:50,170 period called the Champlain sea so it 1058 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,390 was actually just a sort of branch of 1059 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:54,160 this larger see that almost stretched 1060 00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:56,350 out all the way to Michigan and there 1061 00:45:02,180 --> 00:44:59,050 were various marine mammals and lots of 1062 00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:02,190 aquatic creatures that lived in that 1063 00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:05,320 body water you know which is fossil 1064 00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:06,940 evidence has been found at beluga whales 1065 00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:09,580 and walruses and seals and other animals 1066 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:12,820 so so perhaps something else maybe was 1067 00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:14,410 swimming around in here and got 1068 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:16,510 landlocked as the glaciers receded and 1069 00:45:20,250 --> 00:45:18,130 there's a number of species of fish in 1070 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:20,260 Lake Champlain that are possibly 1071 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:23,170 believed to be adapted from saltwater to 1072 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:25,750 freshwater such as the Atlantic salmon 1073 00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:29,230 found in the lake sturgeon possibly the 1074 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:31,840 sea lamprey it's a very bio diverse lake 1075 00:45:35,790 --> 00:45:33,550 and it's one of the most biodiverse 1076 00:45:39,210 --> 00:45:35,800 actually in North America at over 90 1077 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:39,220 plus species of fish it's within the top 1078 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:41,650 20 largest lakes in the United States 1079 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:45,910 and it's its massive 123 miles long 12 1080 00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:48,400 miles wide at the widest and it 1081 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:51,430 virtually spans most of the coast or 1082 00:45:57,330 --> 00:45:53,110 rather most of Vermont it's kind of 1083 00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:57,340 called New England's west coast all 1084 00:46:01,320 --> 00:45:58,930 right now exam for CH initely we are 1085 00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,330 almost out of time so I'd like to give 1086 00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:03,480 you the chance to let our audience know 1087 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,300 where they can find out more about you 1088 00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:09,040 website where they can find your your 1089 00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:12,340 films and so forth sure the easiest 1090 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:14,320 place would be my website which is pedo 1091 00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:18,870 cough Mediacom that spelled P et ako V 1092 00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:20,140 Mediacom 1093 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:22,750 and on there you'll get links to all the 1094 00:46:27,330 --> 00:46:25,270 films social media everything's on their 1095 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:27,340 blog whatever so check that out that's 1096 00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:31,450 the easiest place all right and the your 1097 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:35,380 or your new film coming up what was the 1098 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:38,710 title of that again big cats like lions 1099 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:41,140 of these slides are the you expect that 1100 00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:43,240 to come out sometime this winter 1101 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:46,360 yes that's correct on DVD and streaming 1102 00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:49,120 online very good 1103 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:51,480 and don't forget them there'll be a 1104 00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:54,570 material in our book they're incredible 1105 00:47:03,060 --> 00:46:58,200 encounters which will be out shortly and 1106 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:03,070 hopefully hopefully hopefully if you see 1107 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,130 24/7 putting that together there yeah 1108 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,560 it's a human pretty huge book but you 1109 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:10,960 know I always start saying well this 1110 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:13,270 book is only gonna be you know I'm gonna 1111 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:15,190 make it a small book hundred pages and 1112 00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:18,550 they always end up being like 350 pages 1113 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:20,590 or more or something I I don't know I I 1114 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:24,160 can't control myself I III have 1115 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:26,650 Tourette's of ufology or something like 1116 00:47:32,190 --> 00:47:31,090 that I just can't stop putting them now 1117 00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:32,200 because if there's a little bit more 1118 00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:34,180 information I gotta get it together and 1119 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:37,390 compare all of this and some but anyway 1120 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:40,480 that's incredible encounters and don't 1121 00:47:48,990 --> 00:47:45,850 forget to go to our website our you know 1122 00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:49,000 YouTube by Channel mister UFOs secret 1123 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:51,820 files and let's see what the goodies we 1124 00:47:58,580 --> 00:47:54,970 have over there I'm sure Peters putting 1125 00:48:00,420 --> 00:47:58,590 together some a great little cartoons of 1126 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:00,430 animation I don't know if you'd call 1127 00:48:04,770 --> 00:48:02,890 them cards but the little little shorts 1128 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:04,780 we begin the show with them 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